Friday, November 6, 2009

Is it just a coinencidence that great people have great names? Rockefeller, Churchhill...you know what I mean!

Like why do successful or famous people have cool names; do owners of huge corporations and stuff change their names too? Like Rockefeller, I mean he had to know that was a cool name, was that really his name originally? Am I the only one who has thought of this??!
Is it just a coinencidence that great people have great names? Rockefeller, Churchhill...you know what I mean!
Allot of cool sounding names are original and allot are legally changed to hopefully cool sounding names.. Vanity at it's best...
Is it just a coinencidence that great people have great names? Rockefeller, Churchhill...you know what I mean!
Its an interesting thought and I dont specifically know about Rockefeller or Churchill but I think that its pretty random. Its possible theres a connection about having a good name and becoming famous because if you have a good name you're more likely to be noticed. Also people would much rather listen to a speech by someone named Churchill than Bush
Reply:Many just changed their name. Stalin means steal but he wasn't born with that name.
Reply:Yeah, and no at the same time.


Thats a roman thing "Nomen est omen" and in the nippon


language "itai" means %26lt;dead body%26gt;


Asia is a trend worldwide, and- not I mean, -but your instinct


about past greatness about names just turn those names


caracterised as deactivated, defamed - by great asian names :if they give names a favor at all, prior talent.
Reply:"Great people have great names"? You're joking, right? And using Rockefeller as an example -- his first name was "Nelson"; that's just about as pedestrian as you can get.





A short list of Great (Famous) People with not-so-great names:


H.L. Mencken


Ignatius Donnelly


Wolcott Gibbs


Philip Stubbes


Colley Cibber


Hortense Calisher


Immanuel Kant


John Gay


Erich Fromm


Emily Carr


Henry Adams


Henry Miller


Martin Luther


Louis Riel





Having a "cool" name doesn't mean you will be "great" -- and being "great" doesn't require having a "cool" name. Unless you are an actor in Hollywood, in which case it's all about personal vanity anyway.
Reply:Yes, thats interesting - lots of hard, masculine, consonants and well balanced phonemes - not many feminine 'flowing' sounds in those examples......





.....and wouldn't it be good if there were 'Flo Bloggs' medals instead of 'Nobel' prizes?





I suppose the 'Oscar' is the nearest to a silly name that's associated with fame and honour.





When the powerful western countries were predominantly Anglo-Celtic - it was common for people to change (or for immigration officials to change) their names, so lots of the more mellifluous names from Spain, Mexico or India were exchanged for the harder -edged more 'anglo' sounding ones.





Its pretty common knowledge that the epitome of masculinty in 1950-70s Hollywood, John Wayne, was originally Marion something.





Wonder if Gregory Peck, Charlton Heston, or Brad Pitt are their given names
Reply:it really not the names, it''s what we read into them.


The name "Chamberlain" has the same stylistic sense that Rockefeller and Churchill has, but it has negative connotations because of former PM Neville Chamberlain's mistaken faith in Hitler's word.





We perceive them to be "Cool" because of our cultural biases and conditioning.





To the Romans, the name Caesar had the same effect as "Churchill" or "Rockefeller" has. "Caesar" literally means "a full head of hair". It was actually a cognomen, or "nickname" applied to members of an obscure branch of the Julian clan, but because of one man, Gaius Julius Caesar, the name has come to mean ultimate Imperial power, a "Caesar" or "Emperor", (although the literal meaning is somewhat ironic, since Julius Caesar was rather bald in his middle age).





It is the association with Caesar, the soldier and conqueror that we associate with Emperors and Empires; and its eventual Slavic %26amp; European derivations: "Czar", and "Kaiser" only reinforce that perception. Similarly, "Rockefeller" gives us an impression of absolute wealth, while "Churchillian" connotes steadfastness.





"What's in a name?" Shakespeare asked. The answer is: "whatever we read into it".


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